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Sunday, April 10th 2016, 3:35pm

Noah's pro Support Engineer guide for 7.0

Hello i'm Noah from polish guild Explorers, I'm Great Mechanic with 70lv on leauge site from Server New Frontier.
I play Engineer 2 yers, now i have 78k gs and 666 665 runes, i flying for s2 too and i want share my experience whos i get with you



1.Engineer can play 2 aspects

Aspect of Support

->This aspect increst duration of your all Support effects (Pover/Temporar Aceleration etc.) 50/100/200% in rank 1/2/3
(so if your buff have 2s duration you will have 2s+200% so 2s+4s=6s) and thair eficiency 7/14/21% ( if your buff give 20% more dmg, now give 20% and after it + 21% so = 45.2%)

This aspect don't work on reinc/word mystery skills

Aspect of Assault (attack)

-> This aspect increst your all dmg 10/20/30% in rank 1/2/3

You can using only 1 aspect

2. Engineer mechanics

Engineer using reactor :



Spells cooling or heating reactor temperature max -200 from +200, basic temperature is 0 and cooling -20 or heating +20 evry sec if your reactor is overheated or overcooled

How can you see, Engineer have 3 basic spells whose are permanently unloced and never will have highter rank, we can use them with +1lv

Teleportation

-> After use it you will teleportet to your device

Pover Barier

-> You destroying your device but you will get 50% absorb from his health ( for 6sec)

Sabotage

-> You exploding your device, all enemies in 15y around will get Bleeding effect for 6s (inflict dmg evry 2s), its good spell in low lv your character, but after take rubies "Self-Destruction" you will never use it again

3. Best Weapon For Engineer?

-> In my opinion best chose is Paired Weapons + Wand
-> offhend didin't give resistance stats any more, and uncursing 1 item is cheaper then 2


4. All Skills, and theirs groups

Physical
Acid
Acid whan reactor is cold/Physical when rector is hot
Lighting
Aoe = [A]

a) Volley

Acid shot (cooling reactor by -40*)

-> You piu piu green laser whose inflict little more dmg then Grapeshot, but it's trap, don't chose this skill, becose anothers Engineer skill will inflict s*** dmg

Grapeshot (Heating reactor by +40*)

-> Our Basic skill, we piu piu Orange Laser who inflict little dmg

Toxic volley (cooling reactor by -40*)

-> It's upgraded version Acid shot, but like i said, don't chose it, trust me

b) Defensive Device

Medical Emergency

-> Its heling device, whose reduces xxx dmg by 8s
good for +offheal team, remonad to use it, alo with some rubies it dispel negative buffs evry 1s with 50% chance

Power Field

->shit
c) Special Device

Wormhole

-> It's Trolling device, you can Mark somone with "Beacon" and then, whan you will instal Wormhole, your target will teleported after 5s to this device
I have 2 ideas for what we can using this device, first is just troling friends, and second more important is teleporting Enemies healers far away in bg or 3vs3
This skill work on Golems tooo ! (but don't wok on ppl whose carrying flag ;c)

Steel Trap

-> Op skill who imobilizes our Target for 4,5s Ignoring his Willpower ! We can stop Golem or ppl who carrying flag with this skill, this work on Flying Balls In Eclips too (Gunner Boss)

d) Attacing device

Light Turret

-> This device Piu Piu our target evry 2s with small Lighting Balls (dmg are Phisical) we using this device for single target or Boss
Life time is 14s with rubies
Health = 25% of your Character

Acid Turret [A]

-> This device spam acid vomit evry 0,5s, we using this for multi target, or for boss who are not running
Life time is 8s with rubies
Health = 25% of your Character

e) Attacing device whose using Tears of the Dragon

Collosus

-> Super Device who Attack your enemies inflict nice dmg, and stuning them evry 3 attack
Health = 130/140/150% of your Character
Life tile is 23s with Blue Tears

Portable Cannon

-> Super Device who Attack your enemies inflict small dmg, stac effect who increst dmg from this device (this effect can stac max 30 times), and give your paty Treachery effect for 1s evry 1 shot
Health = 75%/80%/85% of your Character
Life time is 17s with Blue Tears

-> I like using them for Power Barier

d) Defensive support skills

Courage

-> Your party will get +350 Willpover for 2s (with support aspect 423.5 for 6s)

Blood thirs

-> Your party will get +350 Bloodust for 2s (with support aspect 423.5 for 6s)

f) Battle support skills

Treachery

-> Your party will get +350 The highest offensive stat for 2s (with support aspect 423.5 for 6s)

Temporal Acelleration

-> Your party will get +25% speed, cooldown of your spells will be reduct -25%, and your global cd from 2s to 1s (with support aspect for 6s and effect will be increased)

Pover

->Your party will geteffect who increases dmg +20% for 2s (with support aspect 45.2% for 6s)

g) Bombs

Frag bomb (Heating reactor by +80* can't be used when reactor is cold)

-> Best Engineer skill, Deals the biggest dmg + give effect who Deals some dmg for 6s evry 1s

Bacterial bomb (Cooling reactor by -80*, can't be used when reactor is hot)

-> Deal small dmg x7 times, not recommended

h) Stunes

Shocer

->Stun target for 3s

Spider Supressor [A]

-> Stun all targets for 3s

Paralizyng ray

-> cc spell who stun mobs for 30s, players for 4-6s, need have 6-4s cast time

j) Reactor skills

Burst of mana [A]

-> Second best engineer spell, who deals nice aoe dmg

Reaktor Blowdown

-> Deals small dmg for the target, good spell for Attacing aspect

i) Anothers skills

Iron curtain

-> Reduct your incoming dmg -60%, can save your ass sometimes

Concentrate

-> Good spell for debuff healing skills Healers, can be healpfull if you want do DC alone

Acid tide

-> Buff who give you some acid dmg evry time you and your party use skills, its good using him with Grapeshot + Aceleration (work 8s with rubies)

Flying Factions [A]

-> It's aoe debuff, someting like Concentrate, but have longer cd

Beacon

-> You Mark target for 10s, after you use skill "Wormhole" this target will be teleported to this device

j) Word mystery skills

Master Plan

-> Give your party effect for 10s who increase Prof,Brut,Deter by 70

Adrenalin

-> Give your party effect for 10s who increase Vitality and Bloodust by 150

Gift of Tensses

-> Ress ability, who can be used in combat too, have 1m cd/ in combat cd will be increasted to 5m

k) Race ability

Evil Genius (Mechanic) [A]

-> Give you Treachery effect for 6s and reduct dmg your target for 6s

Flash Charge (Gunner) [A]

-> Stune all enemies in front of you for 3s

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Sunday, April 10th 2016, 3:36pm

5.Support rubies

If you use support spell, you will get 16s buff



-> First buff looking like shield, you will get it if you use any Defensive support skill

-> Second buff looking like dragons head, you will get it if you use any Battle support skill

-> Thanks this Support effect will be applies again


Blue = Battle support rubies
Green = Defensive support rubies

-> Circulation : Blowdown or Burst of mana one again applies the Battle Support effect
-> Chemical Agents : Frag bomb or Bacterial bomb one again applies the Battle Support effect
-> Artillery Support : Light Turret one again applies the Battle Support effect
-> Secundary Reaction : Acid Turret one again applies the Battle Support effect
-> Posiction Reinforcement : Pover Barier one again applies the Defensive Support effect
-> Vehicle of Propaganda : Iron Curtain one again applies the Defensive Support effect
-> Doping : Medical Emergency one again applies the Defensive Support effect
-> Dear Walls : Pover Field one again applies the Defensive Support effect

6. About build

In build you have rubies :

Green -> Work only with Support Aspect
Red -> Work only with Attack Aspect
Don't marked -> Work with both Aspects (don't need to have any aspect to work)

This post has been edited 5 times, last edit by "Xrade19" (May 2nd 2016, 5:19pm)


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Sunday, April 10th 2016, 3:37pm

7.Engineer OP build for Support

a) Stats

Not actual

b) PVE BUILD

Not Actual

if you want healing and deal less dmg or spider rank x3, you can change talents from Shocer, Collosus and Portable Cannon to rank 1 so you have more 6 talents for it :)

Uprages from rubies:

Grapeshot
+60% more dmg and Grapeshot heat reactor by +100* now
+80% more dmg from effect Cannonade
+12% more dmg after you use Burst of mana for 10s
+~20-25% acid dmg while you using Acid Tide buff
+15% more dmg
(You can using this skill evry 1s wihle Temporal Acceleration efect)

Fragbomb
+50% dmg and using this skill you apply battle support buff again
+30% dmg
+1% dmg for ech each + value on + in reactor so with 200 value = +200% dmg
+15% more dmg

Burst of Mana
using this skill you apply battle support buff again
+15% more dmg

Acid/Light Turret
+24% dmg
+50% dmg
+40% life time
Whan time of your device will end, your device explod dealing good aoe dmg ( someting like 2/3 dmg of Blurst of mana)
Whan you summon your device, it falls from Sky and dealing good aoe dmg ( someting like 2/3 dmg of Blurst of mana)
-9% incoming dmg ( and -9% with each another device, so using 2 devices = -18%) and this rubie give basic -9% too
You can using 2 device in the same time ( i mean for example Turret + Pover field)
(if you will have more, first device will explode)

Pover Field
Give you cannonade effect +1 in each sec, having 500 switnes you will put this effect all time :thumbup:
Give all ppl from your party -40% for dodge attack, so good to put this device close tank in island
Whan time of your device will end, your device explod dealing good aoe dmg ( someting like 2/3 dmg of Blurst of mana)
Whan you summon your device, it falls from Sky and dealing good aoe dmg ( someting like 2/3 dmg of Blurst of mana)
+40% life time
-9% incoming dmg ( and -9% with each another device, so using 2 devices = -18%) and this rubie give basic -9% too
You can using 2 device in the same time ( i mean for example Turret + Pover field)
(if you will have more, first device will explode)

Steel Trap
Pull all enemies in 15y around this device
Whan time of your device will end, your device explod dealing good aoe dmg ( someting like 2/3 dmg of Blurst of mana)
-9% incoming dmg ( and -9% with each another device, so using 2 devices = -18%) and this rubie give basic -9% too
+50% dmg

Iron Curtain
This skill apply Def support effect again now

Portable Cannon/Collosus
+24% dmg
+50% dmg
+40% life time
Whan time of your device will end, your device explod dealing good aoe dmg ( someting like 2/3 dmg of Blurst of mana)
Whan you summon your device, it falls from Sky and dealing good aoe dmg ( someting like 2/3 dmg of Blurst of mana)
-9% incoming dmg ( and -9% with each another device, so using 2 devices = -18%) and this rubie give basic -9% too
You can using 2 device in the same time ( i mean for example Turret + Pover field)
(if you will have more, first device will explode)

Bloodthirs
Increast healing all party +100% something like skill in 6.0 The Cure or Palladin skill in 6.0 but now this effect have 6s

Pover Barier
Now you destroy all devices not only one, and you geting all absorb from them
25% of health device give absorb shield for ppl from your party

Stats rubies
+90 prof
+9% Vigor
+60% Stamina wow o.o
+120 Switnees <3


Future rubies :

Fortyfication
your all devices have 60% more health, so after use skill "Pover Barier" you will have more absorb :)

Tactical Retreat
It's Luxury rubie who give you+15% absorb after teleport to defensive device, +15% dmg after teleport to battle device, or invisiblity after teleport to special device, effect is for 6sec, and how you see, this 1 rubie give more then x3 rubies "Residual Energy", with 500 switness and support effect you can using teleport evry 19s, iron curtain evry 14s, so it's small diferent, thats why i don't recomendet this x3 rubies and better have this rubie
In practice i don't using it in pve/pvp so many times, but 6s invis it's helpfull in lvling or hide before enemies/ or shi*** mobs whos you unfortunately agro :P



c) PVP BUILD

Not actual

Concentrate
remove +2 more positiv effects, deal little more dmg of each removed positiv effect

Future rubies :

Wormhole
Beacon
For golems/healers and ofc, this device deal dmg after summon, and after explode

Tactical Retreat
--||--

Why i don't take +100% healing for pvp ?
-> Becose you don't have alwyas healer in your ass like in PVE, so in my opinion better take x2 rubies for better absorb from shield and x2 for Concentrate to debuff shield or healing, this will be more effectiv whan you will be with some ppl, becose thay will stun and deal dmg, so if you debuff healing from healler he will die in 2-3 sec :thumbup:

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Sunday, April 10th 2016, 3:40pm

9. Engineer's Trainer


Trainer is NPC who can reset your talent points, rubies and Stats point, in 40lv can give you special quest for +1 rubin


You can reset your stats for free to 15lv, +15lv you must buy Water of Death from Boutique to reset your rubies and talents or Water of Live for reset your stats points



League Engineer Trainer



Empire Engineer Trainer





10. Free bonus for newbies

You can find here some free bonus, but some can be here in highters lvl


a) (5-10lv)


b) (10-20lv)


c) or (10-20lv)


d) (65-70lv)


League








Empire







11.Free 4h Potion's (daily quest)


Effects:







League


-->





Empire

-->





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Sunday, April 10th 2016, 6:22pm

12.Reincarnations skills


For PVE

Trinity
-> Heal sellectet target and 2ppl with the lowest hp in your theam, good support healing

Fus ro dah!
-> Throw all enemies in 15y and stun them for 1s

Nature's Grip
-> Slow down all enemies in area -50% speed

For PVP

Fear od Death
-> Fear target for 3s

Glint
-> Teleport you to sellect target and immobilize ennemies in 15y for 3s

Falcon kick!
-> Kick your enemies in to space, then whan he fall down he will stuned for 1,5s :D

13. Some pictures witm My dps

a) s1






b) s2

c) bg






ofc remember i have only 666 runes :)



14. The end

Ok i finished now, i have hope i help you little, and thx for reading :)
If you have better build, have questions, have ideas for better place for rubies or talents, or if you don't understand someting, write now :)

And Sry, for my Eanglish and your poor and sore eyes ;/




see you on bg or astral allods :)

This post has been edited 9 times, last edit by "Xrade19" (Mar 26th 2017, 7:45pm)


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Friday, April 15th 2016, 11:05am

A little feedback right here..


->This aspect increst duration of your all Support effects (Pover/Temporar Aceleration etc.) 50/100/200% in rank 1/2/3
(so if your buff have 2s duration you will have 2s*200%=6s) and thair eficiency 7/14/21% ( if your buff give 20% more dmg, now give 20*21%=24.2% dmg etc.)


2s*200% = 4 seconds, which is why it increases the effect by 200% of it's duration (so that it means 300% of the 2s), but that's just nitpicking.

You are however completely off on how the Power works. Let's say you do 100 damage, it'll then take the 20% into account, so that'll be 120 damage. After that it takes support aspect into account so you'll end up doing a total of 145.2 damage. Which is a 45.2% increase and no, it does not affect healing to my knowledge.
The stat buffs get a flat efficiency bonus though, so with level 3 support aspect they'll always give 423.5 points.

Personally I also don't see a reason of just listing a bunch of skills close to randomly either, all of these are available in-game as well, along with the aspect markings through this addon: https://alloder.pro/files/file/324-spellicon/
Instead, you could probably talk about how the support aspect keeps up buffs, which spells share cooldown and which stats are important for certain aspects and activities.

Also spelling. I realize not everyone has a proper grasp of the English language, but please, if you put so much effort into copy-pasting skills from the game as least try to spell their names correctly.
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Sunday, May 8th 2016, 10:11pm

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Monday, May 9th 2016, 1:13am

this is an excellent guide, very comprehensive, thanks for sharing!

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Wednesday, May 18th 2016, 11:59am


2s*200% = 4 seconds, which is why it increases the effect by 200% of it's duration (so that it means 300% of the 2s), but that's just nitpicking.



What the hell are you talking about? Do you even understand basic math? 2 increased by 200% equals 6, not 4.
2 increased by 100% = 4 (double)
2 increased by 200% = 6 (triple)
And btw, he did a good job with the post, stop complaining. Nobody asked him to do the guide, he did it because he wanted to. So if you have better ideas for guides, do one yourself, we are waiting for it.

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Wednesday, May 18th 2016, 1:18pm


2s*200% = 4 seconds, which is why it increases the effect by 200% of it's duration (so that it means 300% of the 2s), but that's just nitpicking.



What the hell are you talking about? Do you even understand basic math? 2 increased by 200% equals 6, not 4.
2 increased by 100% = 4 (double)
2 increased by 200% = 6 (triple)
And btw, he did a good job with the post, stop complaining. Nobody asked him to do the guide, he did it because he wanted to. So if you have better ideas for guides, do one yourself, we are waiting for it.

Is that not exactly what I said?

As for the "complaints"... if you'd rather see errors in a guide meant for new players than point them out in order to fix it, then I'll just show myself out of this topic and let it all slide. It's better to be misinformed anyways.
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Wednesday, May 18th 2016, 1:25pm

2s*200% = 4 seconds

you just wrote it here, and it is not correct, it should be: 2s*200%=6 seconds , so no, it is not what you said

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Wednesday, May 18th 2016, 1:45pm


you just wrote it here, and it is not correct, it should be: 2s*200%=6 seconds , so no, it is not what you said

Don't let google tell you how to live your life.
Alternative opinion

2 seconds increased by 100% = 2 seconds * 2.0 = 2 seconds * 200% = 4 seconds
2 seconds increased by 200% = 2 seconds * 3.0 = 2 seconds * 300% = 6 seconds

But as I said, it was only nitpicking there - I'm not even sure why are you trying to prove me wrong so hard.
Now to quote this for the lols:

What the hell are you talking about? Do you even understand basic math?
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Monday, May 23rd 2016, 10:47pm

If this is your builds, I would recommend to change them, because no benefit from them. If it is still normal in PVE, in PVP it is not very. My build http://www.allodswiki.ru/calc/#!10!112.2…eeleb/JODBKKXTT
For guide special thanks.
P.s. I play for the engineer in about 5 months(7.0 from the start to the Russian server) and could excuse the bad English.

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Monday, March 20th 2017, 5:26pm

Currently i am using the build from this guide: http://eu.allodswiki.ru/calcnew/#!10!113…C!ahzzdb/FEZGYC

And i would like good rotations for the support build since i think i could improve the one i using now.

I am thinking that the build is missing some support stuff, like remove debuffs for example. So, i want to make a few changes, taking in account that i don't have all the rubies. I was thinking in something like:

http://eu.allodswiki.ru/calcnew/#!10!112…ejplc/RKZQNHXTT

I want to focust mostly on pve (raids: SP, easy and maybe normal), but added some pvp stuff for some skirmishes and dominion.

Also, is wise to put both offensive buffs (damage and CD reduction)? If it is, then which would be the best way to use them together? or must use one or the other depending on the fight and classes in the party?

Thx for the tips.

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Wednesday, July 26th 2017, 1:43pm

My 8.1 Build pve+pvp support

http://pts.allodswiki.ru/calc#!10!113.3.…qyfcb/DVDJLWJVP


stats :

500 swifnes = 24/7h bufss
250+ Bloodust
for pve 300 determination +
for pve 250 Concetration +

for pvp 300 Brutality +
for pvp 500 caution

Also if posible + pychical dmg


for pvp you can take x2 sterylization rubies to bother more heler taking them down 1-2 buffs more

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Wednesday, July 26th 2017, 2:26pm

Treachery instead of Power? Really?

Oh and please use new calc: https://alloder.pro/calc-en/#e$ag0000000…0000000::13ydj3

It's in English (or DE, FR, TR if you want) and it's updated for 8.1

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Wednesday, July 26th 2017, 2:30pm

Quoted

Treachery instead of Power? Really?


yep pover not short your cd, Trachery do, but it's only to short your cd if you make mistake and no apply speed buff again (becose you have speed buff 24/7h if you do it good)

Quoted


Oh and please use new calc: https://alloder.pro/calc-en/#e$ag0000000…0000000::13ydj3

It's in English (or DE, FR, TR if you want) and it's updated for 8.1


np

https://alloder.pro/calc-en/#e$bj1gqc1tu…dkjpig3::13ydj3

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Wednesday, July 26th 2017, 2:50pm

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Wednesday, July 26th 2017, 3:30pm

Oh gosh, well, whatever.

Quoted


I think players will prefer 24 7 speed boost with bloodthris for astral (all my talking now its about pve)
Its more fun for play with spd less cast and less cd.
Anyway you cant hold 24/7 these buffs if you are starting nww update like now and have no swift...
My build for astral is with these buffs and instead of power i added thechrery buff so when i cast it, my swift gets up so i can make the normal boost again.

For pvp i dont know but im sure techrery buff wont help more swift and power you can.. Anyway i recommend willpower,speed boost,bloodlust for pvp
speed boost, bllodthris and techrery effect for pve


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