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61

Tuesday, May 23rd 2017, 10:02pm

I already see exploiting if we can call like that from new server to New Frontier if they add that exchange npc....
all old players will go there and farm golds and if crystal rate will be really low on that server they will exchange and when come back on new frontier will have so much crystals
You're confusing exploiting with being smart.

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Wednesday, May 24th 2017, 2:06am

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*i think you are full of shit
*You're telling that you are not getting anywhere with your character(s)
*What you are doing as a god damn MOD even ... it's so discouraging for new players to play with us, what a shit move to do from a guy that claims he loves this game.


First of all, 'getting' and 'going' are two completely different words that change the whole context of what was said in the post you're referring to. I said my character was not 'going' anywhere ie., I can log into them at any time, thus see no reason not to explore the new server even if I do not end up remaining there entirely. This is obviously not the same as 'not getting anywhere', which implies inability to progress. The whole thing was further explained later in the post.

Second of all, if you honestly believe people out there wouldn't enjoy a fresh start, with or without past investments elsewhere, then I'm sad to say that you're sorely mistaken. I'm sure most of invested players see no point - yet there's nothing stopping the rest from playing on both servers if they wish (eg. during main character downtime), which is the approach I'll likely be taking.

Third, I'm failing to see how anything in my post shows a lack of love in the game, nor do I see what my own investment (or status) has to do with how I choose to play Allods in my spare time. If anything, me fully considering playing away from said investments out of a want of seeing the game from fresh eyes, or dedicating time to characters on two different servers if not transitioning entirely (after having already played for 7 years as it is) should pretty much disprove this weird 'lack of love' approach.

Lastly, please keep it clean. No need for unnecessary offensives in this discussion.

Regards,
Mhul

This post has been edited 12 times, last edit by "Mhuldoon" (May 24th 2017, 10:44am)


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Wednesday, May 24th 2017, 9:59am

So TL;DR, but I figured I put it out there; I think I'm finally done with this game. It has nothing to do with the CS, P2W, or even a new server. It has everything to do with the EU time bias on events. Being in GMT-10 it's somewhere between extremely difficult and impossible for me to do anything in game now. When it was an NA server with the majority of guilds operating out of EST (GMT-5) it was pretty hard, and worse still when DST kicked in. However, at only 6 hours off (max) it was still doable, if annoying. Being 12 hours off server time now has events happening with no possible way to participate, making it massively unappealing.

So in the end, the "international" server is what finally killed it for me.

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Friday, May 26th 2017, 3:08am

what I think ...

A fresh start may seem good as a start ... but oh well we all know how will this end .. dead server ends up being merged or dying pfft ... did my.com just lost their mind ??
I mean its a MASSIVE MULTIPLAYER ONLINE GAME .... and yet the population is so low ... same things happened to many servers, lets start counting shall we ?
( Arabic, Turkish, USA, Europe, Brazil, and I think there is more ... ) all those serves ended up getting fused together due to lots of stuff but most Importantly POPULATION! and yet my.com did not learn the lesson it seems ... it kinda Ignores the game ... like okay we already have good amount of top-uppers whom they will not leave this game as they've already spend too much to leave the game ... I mean come'on ! my.com has not only failed to attract newcomers, but it also failed to keep the old ones ... Me and many other people know many friends whom they left the game, and I don't think they will be getting back, but why ? as the time passes the game put more stuff that effects your power as a player and its an endless loop ... other games took another approach ( cosmetics and stuff ) take dota 2 for example and check the battle pass international prize pool numbers don't lie :) . even if we try to make an approach or a suggestion as player to increase the population ( advertising , active GM's, and other stuffs ) we get a chat bot like reply or else we get ignored.


I think the most effective solution is to work on the quantity not the quality of donating players we have a folk quote that says "a flowing Watercourse is better than a dry river". and I think there is some kind of that approach from the game developers as they are starting to understand that getting more players to play with less time is better than few people to be 24/7 like the order buffs that helps you to get stuff in less time, yet they negate this approach by some tweaks that force the players to buy stuff from the boutique consistently and you can see this throughout the patches ...


so if they try to solve it will be as much as a dead server... goes for both old and new one ... the only people who will keep on playing are the ones that got addicted too much or spent too much time/money on this game .... new comers will give it a try ... love the leveling till they reach the cruel world of max level and see the enormous gap "know your place" so they either have to spend money or simply.. leave the game find something else ...




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65

Friday, May 26th 2017, 3:22am

They could also try bringing people to the subscription server, where all content is still available, and you can easily access most cash shop necessities through your adventure in the game.
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66

Friday, May 26th 2017, 4:51am

Lol skirmish queue in new frontier is almost non-existent post-patch.

67

Friday, May 26th 2017, 2:26pm

is it because of the new server?

68

Saturday, May 27th 2017, 10:09am

I think it's because everyone is trying to get the best equipment they can get, so they would smash other people in bgs, but i may be mistaken.

A fresh start may seem good as a start ... but oh well we all know how will this end .. dead server ends up being merged or dying pfft ... did my.com just lost their mind ??
I mean its a MASSIVE MULTIPLAYER ONLINE GAME .... and yet the population is so low ... same things happened to many servers, lets start counting shall we ?
( Arabic, Turkish, USA, Europe, Brazil, and I think there is more ... ) all those serves ended up getting fused together due to lots of stuff but most Importantly POPULATION! and yet my.com did not learn the lesson it seems ... it kinda Ignores the game ... like okay we already have good amount of top-uppers whom they will not leave this game as they've already spend too much to leave the game ... I mean come'on ! my.com has not only failed to attract newcomers, but it also failed to keep the old ones ... Me and many other people know many friends whom they left the game, and I don't think they will be getting back, but why ? as the time passes the game put more stuff that effects your power as a player and its an endless loop ... other games took another approach ( cosmetics and stuff ) take dota 2 for example and check the battle pass international prize pool numbers don't lie . even if we try to make an approach or a suggestion as player to increase the population ( advertising , active GM's, and other stuffs ) we get a chat bot like reply or else we get ignored.


I think the most effective solution is to work on the quantity not the quality of donating players we have a folk quote that says "a flowing Watercourse is better than a dry river". and I think there is some kind of that approach from the game developers as they are starting to understand that getting more players to play with less time is better than few people to be 24/7 like the order buffs that helps you to get stuff in less time, yet they negate this approach by some tweaks that force the players to buy stuff from the boutique consistently and you can see this throughout the patches ...


so if they try to solve it will be as much as a dead server... goes for both old and new one ... the only people who will keep on playing are the ones that got addicted too much or spent too much time/money on this game .... new comers will give it a try ... love the leveling till they reach the cruel world of max level and see the enormous gap "know your place" so they either have to spend money or simply.. leave the game find something else ...




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I agree on all that, but where you think they could "storage" these people if the situation before patch was max they could handle i guess, since now post patch i hardly ever have a lag in novo and it wasn't like that ever.

69

Sunday, May 28th 2017, 2:50pm

ppl will have hard times farming the gold for 11s since there is no exchange NPC
and ppl will be like "if i pay why would i need to farm" (and they are totally right about that)
im curious how runes will develop

70

Sunday, May 28th 2017, 4:25pm

Don't you receive free lvl 8 runes there? By the time you'll have farmed lvl 8 runes on new frontier at least 1 year will pass, so the choice of servers is obvious for us new or returning players.

And btw, saying that this new server is p2w and new frontier is not is pure hypocrisy, but it's expected from you.

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Sunday, May 28th 2017, 7:12pm

You are right, you get 8 level runes, for 1 month that is. Crystal chips, or whatever they are called, that you get after runes expire suffice for doing lvl 4 runes as i've read somewhere on the forum. So it is still a better choice than new frontier i guess.

72

Monday, May 29th 2017, 5:29am

Why would you pay $21 a month for 8s and all that, and STILL HAVE TO BUY OTHER CASH SHOP NECESSITIES when you can pay $11 for no cash shop.
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73

Monday, May 29th 2017, 2:26pm

khaexea I see you are still trying to convince people to play that server, haven't you got bored yet? If they don't listen to you, why do you even bother.

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Monday, May 29th 2017, 3:06pm

Why would you pay $21 a month for 8s and all that, and STILL HAVE TO BUY OTHER CASH SHOP NECESSITIES when you can pay $11 for no cash shop.

because you want the itemshop
because you dont want to be stuck with IV runes forever
because you dont want to be stuck with pat 4 forever
because you want the full game
because you are a farmer
because you are a casher
because you like to become vastly superior to other players
(tell me if you want more)....

;)

75

Monday, May 29th 2017, 3:42pm

i just wish they enable cross server skirmishes bgs/gob/astral/raidfinder just as on ru .

76

Tuesday, May 30th 2017, 3:19am

khaexea I see you are still trying to convince people to play that server, haven't you got bored yet? If they don't listen to you, why do you even bother.
Because I love the server and the people that I talk to every day on the server. I want everyone to share the same experience.
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Tuesday, May 30th 2017, 3:22am

Why would you pay $21 a month for 8s and all that, and STILL HAVE TO BUY OTHER CASH SHOP NECESSITIES when you can pay $11 for no cash shop.

because you want the itemshop
because you dont want to be stuck with IV runes forever
because you dont want to be stuck with pat 4 forever
because you want the full game
because you are a farmer
because you are a casher
because you like to become vastly superior to other players
(tell me if you want more)....

;)
I mean, when it costs such an extraneous amount of money/time to farm even mid tier items from the start, I don't believe your statement about the cash shop. If the cash shop prices were reduced by 50% or even 40% I'm sure more people would play.
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Tuesday, May 30th 2017, 9:06am

Why would you pay $21 a month for 8s and all that, and STILL HAVE TO BUY OTHER CASH SHOP NECESSITIES when you can pay $11 for no cash shop.

because you want the itemshop
because you dont want to be stuck with IV runes forever
because you dont want to be stuck with pat 4 forever
because you want the full game
because you are a farmer
because you are a casher
because you like to become vastly superior to other players
(tell me if you want more)....

;)
I mean, when it costs such an extraneous amount of money/time to farm even mid tier items from the start, I don't believe your statement about the cash shop. If the cash shop prices were reduced by 50% or even 40% I'm sure more people would play.


and i am sure that if they would reduce the prices this much all the items would become more and more meaningless
the fun part is if only you have this item and noone else (which is unrealistic but you can get close to it if its still rare instead of unique!)
its a bit like you play a game with a very good anticheat and most ppl cant cheat but you still have your wallhack because you put a lot of effort into learning how to make one...
the idea behind this is to keep the amount of players with them small because they have to farm / pay a lot
now if you give them cheap everyone will have them
this would result in a more or less equal game and thus become boring

again, the exciting part of this game is for many that with effort you can become a lot stronger than those who do not put all that effort into

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Tuesday, May 30th 2017, 12:41pm





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Zitat von »khaexea«



Why would you pay $21 a month for 8s and all that, and STILL HAVE TO BUY OTHER CASH SHOP NECESSITIES when you can pay $11 for no cash shop.

because you want the itemshop
because you dont want to be stuck with IV runes forever
because you dont want to be stuck with pat 4 forever
because you want the full game
because you are a farmer
because you are a casher
because you like to become vastly superior to other players
(tell me if you want more)....


I mean, when it costs such an extraneous amount of money/time to farm even mid tier items from the start, I don't believe your statement about the cash shop. If the cash shop prices were reduced by 50% or even 40% I'm sure more people would play.


and i am sure that if they would reduce the prices this much all the items would become more and more meaningless
the fun part is if only you have this item and noone else (which is unrealistic but you can get close to it if its still rare instead of unique!)
its a bit like you play a game with a very good anticheat and most ppl cant cheat but you still have your wallhack because you put a lot of effort into learning how to make one...
the idea behind this is to keep the amount of players with them small because they have to farm / pay a lot
now if you give them cheap everyone will have them
this would result in a more or less equal game and thus become boring

again, the exciting part of this game is for many that with effort you can become a lot stronger than those who do not put all that effort into


I kind of agree, but the "effort" as you have called it, gives you too much advantage over everyone. I would like it to be like half of it(advantage for effort) because, right now this is the situation in the game - people who pay/play from the beginning of the game can literally use two skills, normal skills not high dmg skills to kill an innocent guy that has just started the game (freshly reached max lvl). This is fucked up imo. So what if it brings joy to 1 man, if soon this 1 man won't have anyone to play against, because everyone will just leave as soon as they notice they can do nothing about it, unless they load all their life savings to play and actually enjoy the game for what? A few hours? Don't try to make an excuse because this is the truth about this game.

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Tuesday, May 30th 2017, 1:26pm

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I kind of agree, but the "effort" as you have called it, gives you too much advantage over everyone. I would like it to be like half of it(advantage for effort) because, right now this is the situation in the game - people who pay/play from the beginning of the game can literally use two skills, normal skills not high dmg skills to kill an innocent guy that has just started the game (freshly reached max lvl). This is fucked up imo. So what if it brings joy to 1 man, if soon this 1 man won't have anyone to play against, because everyone will just leave as soon as they notice they can do nothing about it, unless they load all their life savings to play and actually enjoy the game for what? A few hours? Don't try to make an excuse because this is the truth about this game.


And this is why an mmo using this type of economical system shouldn't stop advertising the game : to bring a constant flow of fresh fish (new/low cash shop players) in order for the wales (the ones who keep the game alive by providing 99% of the incomes) not to get bored and leave.

I've said this a couple of times already on this forum but i just love the comparison between virtual f2p (or p2w whatever you call it) vs p2p and the real life capitalist vs communist systems ;)
To me it's clearly (very sumed up but still) :
-f2p = capitalism ==> very few people have an insane advantage above the others by having a lot more ressources
-p2p = communism ==> everyone is pretty much equal (at least on an economical point of view) so everyone can enjoy at the same lvl but nothing really exciting if you ask me

Thing is irl i'm 100% for a communist system (and i think it's clearly the best option for all of us as life isn't a game... srly 8 bilionnaires having as much monney as the 50 poorest % of humanity... if this isn't fucked up for you x_x). Capitalism should imo only be experienceable throught things like f2p (p2w) games so it has not much impact on people's real lifes.

That's it, sorry if it was boring (shouldn't be, we need to get people interested in politic again! ;) )

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