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This post "Noah's pro Support Engineer guide for 7.0" by "Matiasos" (Sunday, April 10th 2016, 3:35pm) has been deleted by the author himself (Thursday, September 26th 2019, 11:14am)

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Friday, April 15th 2016, 11:05am

A little feedback right here..


->This aspect increst duration of your all Support effects (Pover/Temporar Aceleration etc.) 50/100/200% in rank 1/2/3
(so if your buff have 2s duration you will have 2s*200%=6s) and thair eficiency 7/14/21% ( if your buff give 20% more dmg, now give 20*21%=24.2% dmg etc.)


2s*200% = 4 seconds, which is why it increases the effect by 200% of it's duration (so that it means 300% of the 2s), but that's just nitpicking.

You are however completely off on how the Power works. Let's say you do 100 damage, it'll then take the 20% into account, so that'll be 120 damage. After that it takes support aspect into account so you'll end up doing a total of 145.2 damage. Which is a 45.2% increase and no, it does not affect healing to my knowledge.
The stat buffs get a flat efficiency bonus though, so with level 3 support aspect they'll always give 423.5 points.

Personally I also don't see a reason of just listing a bunch of skills close to randomly either, all of these are available in-game as well, along with the aspect markings through this addon: https://alloder.pro/files/file/324-spellicon/
Instead, you could probably talk about how the support aspect keeps up buffs, which spells share cooldown and which stats are important for certain aspects and activities.

Also spelling. I realize not everyone has a proper grasp of the English language, but please, if you put so much effort into copy-pasting skills from the game as least try to spell their names correctly.
Stargazer - P2P League
Hiren - P2P Empire

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Sunday, May 8th 2016, 10:11pm

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Monday, May 9th 2016, 1:13am

this is an excellent guide, very comprehensive, thanks for sharing!

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Wednesday, May 18th 2016, 11:59am


2s*200% = 4 seconds, which is why it increases the effect by 200% of it's duration (so that it means 300% of the 2s), but that's just nitpicking.



What the hell are you talking about? Do you even understand basic math? 2 increased by 200% equals 6, not 4.
2 increased by 100% = 4 (double)
2 increased by 200% = 6 (triple)
And btw, he did a good job with the post, stop complaining. Nobody asked him to do the guide, he did it because he wanted to. So if you have better ideas for guides, do one yourself, we are waiting for it.

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Wednesday, May 18th 2016, 1:18pm


2s*200% = 4 seconds, which is why it increases the effect by 200% of it's duration (so that it means 300% of the 2s), but that's just nitpicking.



What the hell are you talking about? Do you even understand basic math? 2 increased by 200% equals 6, not 4.
2 increased by 100% = 4 (double)
2 increased by 200% = 6 (triple)
And btw, he did a good job with the post, stop complaining. Nobody asked him to do the guide, he did it because he wanted to. So if you have better ideas for guides, do one yourself, we are waiting for it.

Is that not exactly what I said?

As for the "complaints"... if you'd rather see errors in a guide meant for new players than point them out in order to fix it, then I'll just show myself out of this topic and let it all slide. It's better to be misinformed anyways.
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Hiren - P2P Empire

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Wednesday, May 18th 2016, 1:25pm

2s*200% = 4 seconds

you just wrote it here, and it is not correct, it should be: 2s*200%=6 seconds , so no, it is not what you said

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Wednesday, May 18th 2016, 1:45pm


you just wrote it here, and it is not correct, it should be: 2s*200%=6 seconds , so no, it is not what you said

Don't let google tell you how to live your life.
Alternative opinion

2 seconds increased by 100% = 2 seconds * 2.0 = 2 seconds * 200% = 4 seconds
2 seconds increased by 200% = 2 seconds * 3.0 = 2 seconds * 300% = 6 seconds

But as I said, it was only nitpicking there - I'm not even sure why are you trying to prove me wrong so hard.
Now to quote this for the lols:

What the hell are you talking about? Do you even understand basic math?
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Monday, May 23rd 2016, 10:47pm

If this is your builds, I would recommend to change them, because no benefit from them. If it is still normal in PVE, in PVP it is not very. My build http://www.allodswiki.ru/calc/#!10!112.2…eeleb/JODBKKXTT
For guide special thanks.
P.s. I play for the engineer in about 5 months(7.0 from the start to the Russian server) and could excuse the bad English.

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Monday, March 20th 2017, 5:26pm

Currently i am using the build from this guide: http://eu.allodswiki.ru/calcnew/#!10!113…C!ahzzdb/FEZGYC

And i would like good rotations for the support build since i think i could improve the one i using now.

I am thinking that the build is missing some support stuff, like remove debuffs for example. So, i want to make a few changes, taking in account that i don't have all the rubies. I was thinking in something like:

http://eu.allodswiki.ru/calcnew/#!10!112…ejplc/RKZQNHXTT

I want to focust mostly on pve (raids: SP, easy and maybe normal), but added some pvp stuff for some skirmishes and dominion.

Also, is wise to put both offensive buffs (damage and CD reduction)? If it is, then which would be the best way to use them together? or must use one or the other depending on the fight and classes in the party?

Thx for the tips.

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Wednesday, July 26th 2017, 1:43pm

My 8.1 Build pve+pvp support

http://pts.allodswiki.ru/calc#!10!113.3.…qyfcb/DVDJLWJVP


stats :

500 swifnes = 24/7h bufss
250+ Bloodust
for pve 300 determination +
for pve 250 Concetration +

for pvp 300 Brutality +
for pvp 500 caution

Also if posible + pychical dmg


for pvp you can take x2 sterylization rubies to bother more heler taking them down 1-2 buffs more

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "Xrade19" (Jul 26th 2017, 2:50pm)


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Wednesday, July 26th 2017, 2:26pm

Treachery instead of Power? Really?

Oh and please use new calc: https://alloder.pro/calc-en/#e$ag0000000…0000000::13ydj3

It's in English (or DE, FR, TR if you want) and it's updated for 8.1

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Wednesday, July 26th 2017, 2:30pm

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Treachery instead of Power? Really?


yep pover not short your cd, Trachery do, but it's only to short your cd if you make mistake and no apply speed buff again (becose you have speed buff 24/7h if you do it good)

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Oh and please use new calc: https://alloder.pro/calc-en/#e$ag0000000…0000000::13ydj3

It's in English (or DE, FR, TR if you want) and it's updated for 8.1


np

https://alloder.pro/calc-en/#e$bj1gqc1tu…dkjpig3::13ydj3

This post has been edited 3 times, last edit by "Xrade19" (Jul 26th 2017, 2:48pm)


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Wednesday, July 26th 2017, 2:50pm

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Wednesday, July 26th 2017, 3:30pm

Oh gosh, well, whatever.

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I think players will prefer 24 7 speed boost with bloodthris for astral (all my talking now its about pve)
Its more fun for play with spd less cast and less cd.
Anyway you cant hold 24/7 these buffs if you are starting nww update like now and have no swift...
My build for astral is with these buffs and instead of power i added thechrery buff so when i cast it, my swift gets up so i can make the normal boost again.

For pvp i dont know but im sure techrery buff wont help more swift and power you can.. Anyway i recommend willpower,speed boost,bloodlust for pvp
speed boost, bllodthris and techrery effect for pve


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