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Tuesday, November 18th 2014, 10:59pm

I'm lost :(

Hi,

I started playing allods more or less a week ago and it's really fun. I picked orc warden for my class. But in terms of build I'm completly lost. I decided to go with melee DPS but honestly I have no idea what I'm doing.

I've looked for builds in archeatypes forums but everything seems to be very outdated. I've came up with this

http://en.allodswiki.ru/calc/#!5!322.2.3…/EEHD!o/MZAFOBH


but I'm sure I messed up. I'm sure I must take melee skills and rubies but what more? some dmg spells, healing spells, pet skills? Can anyone help me?

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Tuesday, November 18th 2014, 11:16pm

Hello,

It's a very bad build, you're missing one of the main DPS as a warden (Shred, pet tree).
There is really great guides that will explain the basics of this class in the Warden forum section, where i moved your message.

You can read the rubies and talent 5.01 translation first, maybe some combinations will be much more clear for you :
http://fr.allods.com/forum/index.php?pag…d&threadID=3852
And you may find informations here too :
http://en.allods.com/forum/index.php?pag…d&threadID=3754
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This post has been edited 2 times, last edit by "Gladia" (Nov 18th 2014, 11:32pm)


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Wednesday, November 19th 2014, 11:29am

Hello,

It's a very bad build, you're missing one of the main DPS as a warden (Shred, pet tree).
There is really great guides that will explain the basics of this class in the Warden forum section, where i moved your message.

You can read the rubies and talent 5.01 translation first, maybe some combinations will be much more clear for you :
http://fr.allods.com/forum/index.php?pag…d&threadID=3852
And you may find informations here too :
http://en.allods.com/forum/index.php?pag…d&threadID=3754

After reading the links you gave me I've made some changes, is this any better?

http://en.allodswiki.ru/calc/#!5!322.2.3…M!avrdlqb/ILWSB

I feel I sould get some aura but i'n not shure which one.

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Wednesday, November 19th 2014, 2:22pm

Hello,

This talent/ruby calculator is obsolete, and i can't find any up-to-date one.
The Russian one is more accurate for the melee and magic part, and a little bit different in the pet part :
http://www.allodswiki.ru/calc/#!5!111...…...!a/A!a/A!a/A

You seem to miss a lot of talent/ruby points. You can have 65 talent points and 58 rubies max @lvl60 (without the ones in the cash shop). You'll get some rubies from World Mysteries quests, 4 from raid instance (2 are easy to get now, last 2 ones, you'll need a good guild, and there's probably one in the most recent raid instance of the game, Eclipse). You can have a PVP ruby, a class ruby (need a lot of patience to get this one). So it's 52 easy rubies you can spend @lvl 60

What level are you ? You can change talent and rubies for free until you are lvl 16.

First thing to get is the shred combo and basic attacks maxed.

Force of Nature is a must-have (Vigor directly influence your dps).
Pilgrim way has a wrong description, it doesn't work with Clout and Wolf's blow (unless it has changed with the 5.0.02).
Iron fist has also a wrong description in this EN calculator, it increases all your melee damages, whatever the melee weapon (it's accurate in the game).
Survival instincts (pet tree, bottom right corner) has a wrong description in the EN calculator, it increases shred damages depending on the "combat wit" or "static charge" stacks.
Hard training is useless for me, but that's personnal.

I'm not playing melee, i'm much more a mix of magic and melee (+pet of course) so i can't help very much for a pure melee build, except for the basics.

This : https://alloder.pro/files/file/164-aoumeter/ is a dps-meter (take the _5.0.02 one), if you wanna make some tests of different combination of talent and rubies :).

Good luck.
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Wednesday, November 19th 2014, 4:49pm

Hello,

This talent/ruby calculator is obsolete, and i can't find any up-to-date one.
The Russian one is more accurate for the melee and magic part, and a little bit different in the pet part :
http://www.allodswiki.ru/calc/#!5!111...…...!a/A!a/A!a/A

You seem to miss a lot of talent/ruby points. You can have 65 talent points and 58 rubies max @lvl60 (without the ones in the cash shop). You'll get some rubies from World Mysteries quests, 4 from raid instance (2 are easy to get now, last 2 ones, you'll need a good guild, and there's probably one in the most recent raid instance of the game, Eclipse). You can have a PVP ruby, a class ruby (need a lot of patience to get this one). So it's 52 easy rubies you can spend @lvl 60

What level are you ? You can change talent and rubies for free until you are lvl 16.

First thing to get is the shred combo and basic attacks maxed.

Force of Nature is a must-have (Vigor directly influence your dps).
Pilgrim way has a wrong description, it doesn't work with Clout and Wolf's blow (unless it has changed with the 5.0.02).
Iron fist has also a wrong description in this EN calculator, it increases all your melee damages, whatever the melee weapon (it's accurate in the game).
Survival instincts (pet tree, bottom right corner) has a wrong description in the EN calculator, it increases shred damages depending on the "combat wit" or "static charge" stacks.
Hard training is useless for me, but that's personnal.

I'm not playing melee, i'm much more a mix of magic and melee (+pet of course) so i can't help very much for a pure melee build, except for the basics.

This : https://alloder.pro/files/file/164-aoumeter/ is a dps-meter (take the _5.0.02 one), if you wanna make some tests of different combination of talent and rubies :).

Good luck.
Thanks for all your help, I'm one level away so I can still reset for free. That's why I'm asking before leveling further.

I've tried to get into a guild but haven't found any that would accept a newb :) The mentor system is not very helpful either. I've change my mentors few times and none of them wanted to talk (and yes, they were online) :(

I would like to ask you one more question. As a melee/pet shaman should I ignore all healing and damage spells?

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Thursday, November 20th 2014, 4:01pm

Hello,

I can only speak for me. As i often play alone, i chose to have some healing talents in case of trouble.
I have "renew", and the vibrant health r3, that i use in case of emergency, as it lowers my damage by 2.

For a DPS build, you can choose some healing talents if you want, but i think that you don't need to have them upgraded with rubies.
It's your choice !

You'll get a free fountain of death at your lvl 60 (with a quest at the D2 robot).
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Thursday, November 20th 2014, 8:02pm

Hello,

I can only speak for me. As i often play alone, i chose to have some healing talents in case of trouble.
I have "renew", and the vibrant health r3, that i use in case of emergency, as it lowers my damage by 2.

For a DPS build, you can choose some healing talents if you want, but i think that you don't need to have them upgraded with rubies.
It's your choice !

You'll get a free fountain of death at your lvl 60 (with a quest at the D2 robot).
All those talents and rubies are a bit overwhelming for a new player ;) I guess I'll just experiment till lvl 60 and respec if needed. I feel I'll be bound to solo till 60 so some healing spells might be usefull. Believe it or not but you're the first friendly person that is willing to talk and explain things to me I've met both in game and on forums. I hope there are more people like you in Allods.

Once again, Thank You for your help.

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Thursday, November 20th 2014, 8:53pm

Hello,

I would suggest to take alchemy, you'll be able to craft healing potions too.

Have fun in Allods, i hope you'll find some players to talk to ingame :).
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Saturday, November 22nd 2014, 11:32am

Well it depend what weapons you gonna use don't know sure is 2 handed melee useable anymore but here 2 builds i tried to made for you. One is paired fist and one with 2handed weapons.

I'm not sure how fast Combat wit is building up so that's why didn't take tiger strike, you can easily modify your build.


Paired fist
http://us.allodswiki.ru/calcnew/#!5!333.…O!eqjzcwn/YLELJ


2handed


http://us.allodswiki.ru/calcnew/#!5!333.…O!eqjzcwn/YLELJ


but you should test what is best for your playstyle
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Rospaseta - F2P - deactive
Rosbian -P2P - deactive

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Saturday, November 22nd 2014, 4:09pm

Well it depend what weapons you gonna use don't know sure is 2 handed melee useable anymore but here 2 builds i tried to made for you. One is paired fist and one with 2handed weapons.

I'm not sure how fast Combat wit is building up so that's why didn't take tiger strike, you can easily modify your build.


Paired fist
http://us.allodswiki.ru/calcnew/#!5!333.…O!eqjzcwn/YLELJ


2handed


http://us.allodswiki.ru/calcnew/#!5!333.…O!eqjzcwn/YLELJ


but you should test what is best for your playstyle
Thank You very much for taking your time and making those builds for me.

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